0:00:03: it is the middle ground between light and shadow between science and superstition and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
0:00:14: This is Time enough podcast.
0:00:40: Hello, Welcome to Time enough podcast.
0:00:43: It's a re dive into episodes of the twilight zone and beyond.
0:00:49: Is matt here. Coming to tell us the whole truth today is Andrew shearer.
0:00:56: Can you handle the truth?
0:00:58: Mm No, I was just, I was just hearing about um, and a few good men when um, they, when Jack Nicholson was on set for that scene, even when they were doing coverage on other actors, he'd just go full blast like when he didn't need to write and they're like, you can tone it down. You're not, this isn't your cut. Right. And he's like, I just like acting.
0:01:19: It was a good Nicholson. Um, I remember going to see a few good men when my friends all did because it was like, you know, uh it was just very well reviewed and it was just not the kind of movie that I went to see. So yeah, I took my girlfriend to it and like pretty much every movie between 92 and 95 made out during the whole thing.
0:01:42: Okay, okay, well that's, I mean that's that's fine. I mean again, great movie but not, yeah, if I want to see some Nicholson, it's so it's, it's you know, five easy pieces or the shining or the last detail, the last, the last detail.
0:01:59: That's I am. Well, I can't say the quote, but you know the Shore Patrol. The Blankety blank shore Patrol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the filthiest movie to what big Lebowski is it? Well, they were like, yeah, of course. It's sailor talk. Yeah, it made sense. No sailors today though. Uh this is the whole truth and I'll trivia it up a bit before we start talking about Jack Nicholson's entire career because he's not in the show.
0:02:28: Original air date was January 20, 1961, which was the same day John F. Kennedy was sworn in as the 35th president of the United States.
0:02:39: So not by accident of course, this is a script by Rod Serling Director James Sheldon was a television mainstay from the 50s to the 80s and his long list of credits include a myriad of classic shows like Mash, the man from uncle and the love boat. Just to name a few harvey Honeycutt was played by jack Carson. Carson had a classic film career playing the comedic sidekick to some of Hollywood's biggest leading men like James, cagney and the strawberry blonde and Cary Grant in arsenic and old lace Lauren smith was honest Luther Grumbly. His onscreen career is just a smattering of supporting roles, but he made a splash acting both on broadway and on the West End. He will return to the zone and I dream of Jeannie, which is different than the sitcom. I dream of Jeannie, which which is not different than the sitcom Bewitched at least in my universe.
0:03:39: Sorry, I think I just piste off a few people there. No, I mean you have your you have your favorites. I mean I anyway we could that could talk about that, but I won't and I honestly haven't seen much of those shows since I was like five years old anyway, so I'm I'm just talking out of the West End there.
0:04:02: In contrast, the old man played by George Chandler appeared in supporting roles in around 140 films, but he's probably best known as uncle Petrie Martin on the TV show Lassie.
0:04:15: I don't know if that accent was accurate at all, because last season, another show I haven't seen since I was five except except for that Ben Stiller sketch with Manson, that was great. Ever see that, remember that I got the eye of the Tiger and I don't know who to kill first. Okay, there, that's what Uncle Petrie martin probably says. Right, well done. That's an exact quote from an episode of lassie.
0:04:36: Young car buyers Jack King who would later gain renown as general Harlan Bull Fulbright on the 18 he just passed on september 9th 2022 at the age of 90 90 is a pretty ripe one I guess.
0:04:54: Yeah, Irv was played by Artie johnson. Best known for being the dirty old man on a park bench and rowan and martin's laugh in um I guess since I mentioned the last guy died at the age of 90 so did he but that was in 2019. So it's not quite as uh just last month as I knew it was recent though fairly recently. Yeah.
0:05:15: Okay. I guess you you go old school with the prologue is, don't you?
0:05:21: No, no, you did a weird one once. You gave me a bizarre one at one point in time. But uh like I said this kind of long one so you might want to you know, be ready for the hall. Go ahead. We'll yeah we'll do. So I like to do sterling by drawing my teeth out and a tap.
0:05:42: Alright, here we go.
0:05:44: This as the banner already has proclaimed is Mr Harvey hunnicutt an expert on commerce and con jobs, a brash, bright and larceny loaded wheeler and dealer who when the Good Lord passed out a conscience must have gone for a beer and missed out.
0:06:02: And these are a couple of other characters in our story.
0:06:05: A little old man in a model, a car but not just any old man and not just any model, there's something very special about the both of them.
0:06:14: As a matter of fact, in just a few moments they'll give Harvey Honeycutt something that he's never experienced before.
0:06:21: The good offices of a little magic. They will unload on Mr Honeycutt the absolute necessity to tell the truth exactly where they come from. His conjecture but as to where they're headed for this we know because all of them and you around the, you know, you could, you could also like smoke a pack of chesterfields and, and then you won't have to dry the teeth on your own tight little island full of gay romance.
0:06:51: I've never really smoked but um, the song Dark Alley idea which is in the movie psycho vixens in the bar scene, I did pack as I smoke like a pack of cigarettes before doing the vocal just so I could be as tom waits as possible a pack. Not really, probably too, but I just, I just told you to smoke a pack of chesterfields. I thought I should keep the terminology going, but I don't know about a pack would have made you just vomit into the microphone. Yeah, as I was saying that, I was like, that can't be right because I would vomit into the microphone.
0:07:23: So, what am I talking about? I recorded the vocals in the toilet though, so it would have been like, easy to deal with that if that had come to pass weird on the toilet, not on the toilet, in the room, in the bathroom, sorry, in Japan, you have to say like toilet and then bathroom because they're in different rooms, the toilets in the toilet, the bath is in the bathroom and rarely, well in apartments that sometimes it's the same, but houses, they're always separate. So yeah, you have to, you have to watch your terminology a little bit, right. Um, something I've never done before is actually bought a car, like on a lot. I sold my car once, but I've never bought a car like gone through the process. Um, yeah, because in America, I bought a car from my first car I bought for my roommate and then my aunt sort of handed me down her car because she got that Volkswagen beetle and a year later decided she didn't like driving a stick shift. So she gave me the stick shift and I got like a turbo or something.
0:08:27: I like to stick shift and in japan, I don't, I don't, I'm at work when they, whenever that happens and yeah. Which actually only one. So yeah, I haven't been on the process. Have you, have you been in on the process? Oh yeah, a lot of times. Yeah. My adult life, how was it, did you have to deal with honey cuts?
0:08:49: This is the way they do it. Um, they give you a nice version of honey cuts when they're trying to sell you the car. Then once they sell you the car, they give you like the devil to work out the details. Yeah. Like they put all the nice guys on the sales floor and all the like just sink offense on the, in the, in the actual like rooms to do the paperwork because I was thinking the closest I got to this. Um, and I'll preface the story a little bit when, when I was a kid, my mom, as you probably know is kind of ultra thrifty.
0:09:34: So, so when we go places like Disney World or even like Colonial Williamsburg, she'd always do the thing where you get the free tickets and you have to listen to someone's timeshare pitch, right? So, so when I was like, um you know, 25 or something, um when my wife and I came to our delayed honeymoon at Disney World or whatever, I was like, oh well that worked out well because as a kid you're just like, oh, I was just like board for an hour, you know, I read a book, that sort of thing. But yeah, yeah, but in this case I actually had to deal with them. And uh yeah, that sucked.
0:10:08: Yeah, I can remember um my experience with that was it. Like when you say no to one person, the send in another like pushy er person and then and then that person then finally, as you're actually in your car and successfully leaving, there's a guy in the back seat that pops up with a bomb strapped to his chest.
0:10:32: Yeah. You know, by this time I'm gonna blow this up, this whole thing, Everybody's dying today, you know, by the time Sure nobody's getting the timeshare. That's right. So yeah, that's what you get anyway. And my wife edict after that was, yeah, we're not doing that again. No, no, we're just going to buy the tickets. Sure. Yeah, that was a one and done for us as well. Yeah. Yeah. So, but man, my parents like went through that crap at least like five times or something. I don't I don't know what was up with that.
0:11:04: I guess. So yeah. So yeah, I'm not a wheeler dealer. I I couldn't like, you know, I couldn't sell money. Probably. So like that I'm giving away.
0:11:15: No, I can't say I've ever been in a position where I had to hawk things as they have to for my job.
0:11:23: Yeah. Yeah. Um I've had a little bit of that being in the the the private end of education stuff occasionally. But yeah, it's not my, my Will forte. I'm not Fortune with Will and that one, I don't know why that came to. I think that every time I see that guy's name. Okay, that's cool. Um Anyway, yeah, so we get the young buyer who looks just like Mark wahlberg but hopefully has like a better past history. Um Yeah, I just keep that season one where all like the Hollywood Babylon stories on the twilight zone in season two, we keep getting like good players who look exactly like other people. It's really weird. I agree. I agree. As a matter of fact, I was when I when I saw Artie johnson. I was like, hey, that guy looks like a young Artie johnson. Well that works because it was already johnson but that I know, but I was so sure that it was some other guy just because of the way season two is. Yeah, yeah, but I definitely felt like I was watching Mark wahlberg for for half the time.
0:12:26: Um of course, that's that's just for fun Z's right, this is for a giggle or two. And then the, the model A shows up with that is a full on hipster car. I mean that would be the star of your lot now. Yeah, yeah, no, back then they were just pieces of crap and um oh except what was he said? Oh, I always used to say when people are like, what car would you like? I'd be like, yeah, I want like a 38 ford coupe. That would be like awesome. I mean I want to like, you know, retrofit it with like modern stuff inside, but so that it runs that I'd like the fender to stay on, unlike the one in this. But uh that was funny twice. Um but yeah, a black ford group man, I always thought that would be like awesome to roll around and now I want the Batmobile, more like the sixties, but the Adam West Batmobile, that's why I like my car to be now, but I think you could literally roll around in that because I'm fairly certain they were just made of reinforced steel and it was just sort of, you know, if you hit any other car on the road today, it would just obliterate that other car.
0:13:32: So it was, it's batman's Batmobile was not a tank. Like in the Nolan movies on this model a would be the tank. Yeah, No, no, I did wonder why would you want a tank based car? Tanks are slow like this based on what Abrams tank or something like that that moves like 38 miles an hour, like most 48 miles per Jett tank. That's there is a good idea for an 80s action show tank, you know? And then they could do a crossover with Jet Tank versus Air Wolf. That would be fantastic If we could bring a Manimal is like very like surprise cameo, Manimal eating a man, which that would be a good commercial placement. Yeah, yeah. Um, in the way he sells, he sells the car for 25 bucks, which I guess is cheap even in 1961. It's really hard to tell you know what that means anymore.
0:14:31: Is that like $2 million now?
0:14:36: Australian? Yes.
0:14:40: Um, but yeah, the car is haunted.
0:14:44: That's, that's fun.
0:14:45: Have you ever had a haunted car?
0:14:49: Yeah, well at least had one that smelled dead inside.
0:14:54: It was our friend's car that smelled like dirt. I remember there's some uh Jeff's car. He, he had had some incident at Stone Mountain and I was in his car a week later and the whole thing smelled like dirt and he was playing smashing pumpkins gish at top volume. So any time I hear that album now the smell of dirt comes to mind.
0:15:14: It would have been funny for us to that record dirt. Allison change dirt. That would make more sense. Yeah, I, I um I once wrote around, I had a, well um a friend of mine's father picked us up from the mall and that car was basically a flint stone. Like you look down at the floor board in the back and you saw the street Alright, that's cool. And I was like, you know, I better keep my feet up here. I'm not talking about, I'm talking about haunted. Oh, I actually haunted. Um I mean, I would, I would have to say I had a car that reminded me of Christine, that was the big white cutlass. Oh yes, yes, yes, that was, yeah, that thing. Um Yeah, I would say it actively tried to, To sever my legs on many occasions. Do you still have your legs legs cut off, legs cut off? Yeah, man going, going well so far there you go um visiting my, my aunt, my grandparents in Delaware back in the 90s, it might still be there.
0:16:17: I remember driving past on a route one or something.
0:16:21: I don't know if that's right route, but there was some like, like an art installation where someone had taken a car and like put like this guy sold me this car and it's a lemon and then there was like a little sculpture of a lemon and stuff and it was just like this bizarre art installation. Some guy that was piste off about the car he bought.
0:16:41: I mean when Life gives you a lemon, you make a weird art installation installation.
0:16:51: So yeah, that that certainly came to mind.
0:16:54: Um Now, of course I sometimes you say you see the we know the twist because it's a really famous twilight episode, um twilight zone episode or you know, you can totally see it coming. Um I would argue um 22 in a few weeks, great episode. But you can see that twist coming, you know, forever. Right? So, um, this one I don't think you could ever really No, no, this is a very, I mean, I don't even know if I could, I would, I would describe as a shock ending not in like the traditional sense or even in the twilight zone sense, but in the sense that it was one of the rare instances where they made a joke out of an actual living political figure and and that's why I put in my trivia. This came out on inauguration day. So it was like very much targeted at the end of call Jack County and tell him Khrushchev's gonna tell them the truth about everything, you know? Yeah, that was, it was just, it was wild and you know, you tend to, and I don't know if it's super clear in some of the other episodes because sterling rarely was able to be like as political, especially by season two where they found out that kids really loved the show, you know?
0:18:11: And so he was rarely ever was writing for adults even though it was on late enough to where, you know, it was definitely an adult show. But yeah, he was just trying to avoid controversy kind of at every turn. Yeah, I mean this was politics and very, you know, large strokes. I mean it's not like anyone is going to be what he's, he's dissing Khrushchev, you know, I mean, well, I mean sterling anti communist. I mean he was definitely, you know, his progressive stuff that we've talked about in the past. Um uh, I don't think, you know covered absolutely everything because he was a real like pro America. Um and you know, he's a war veteran and he um yeah, very anti communist, which was in line with a lot of the popular opinion of the time. But if you, you know, like we're to do this episode today and replaced to it, you know, called trump and tell him ken, john's going to tell him the truth that wouldn't wear very well or call biden and tell him, you know, Putin is going to tell him the truth now.
0:19:17: It wouldn't on inauguration day that I feel like that wasn't really, people would be like looking at their screen sideways. Like what? Yeah, no, true. And so, but it is, yeah, it was, it sort of, yeah, I hadn't seen this one in a while and um, because it was, it was, it's only the only times I watch it or when I'm going through and the entire run on my discs, which I don't do like yearly or anything. Um, so I was like, whoa, So what keeps you away from this one Out of curiosity? I, I watched this about three times before the podcast, but it's not one I've seen remembered seeing before. Um, it's because it's because it's comedic because it's on video. That's one thing that's been coming up with six video episodes. It's like, this is the first time I'm like, maybe the video fits because it makes it look like a weird used car commercial.
0:20:12: Mm I mean that's one way to think about it. Another way to think about it is the video format really sort of told on them as far as it being like, I think they're okay with the stuff that's all interior sets, like the ones that are in the house, but I don't think it's served very well in terms of this episode, largely takes place outdoors.
0:20:33: Yeah. I don't feel like it, I don't, I don't feel like it was served very well. That aspect of it of, you know, trying to simulate an actual outdoor location. I don't think the videotape serve it very well, but I don't think it's that, I think it's the kind of say meanness. Um to a lot of better episodes where you've got this object that the character has that either, you know, makes, gives them powers of some kind or gives them prescience of some kind, you know what I mean? And um, they don't the gotchas not as big. Um, the twist, if you could call it that is the fact that it's haunted and makes you tell the truth. I would say the twist is the is not going to tell the truth. I feel like that was the actual twist because the, it's supposed to be, but the car makes you tell the truth is like five minutes into the episode, right? Yeah, yeah. So to find that out at the end might have been, I don't know, after all the years go by might have maybe played better.
0:21:38: I just, it's not one of the ones where I really remember the characters. It's not one of the ones where I even remember how it ends. You know what I mean? But yeah, I think it's the same illness to other ones that I like more, you know, I think there was one in season two where it was about a coin, you know, things like that. And so um, that's a little cooler to me than just this because you see, you talk about a haunted car where you want like something spectral to happen like Christine or you know what I mean? Uh or somebody to be dead. I don't know just calling it haunted and then have it really just have a curse that like well we think of liar liar now the jim Carrey movie and there's I think um what was the other one? One something words with Eddie Murphy, something like that. All the one that came that came to mind for me especially because he is starting to talk to um too too honest what's his name? Um grimly. Uh like kind of a being their vibe because peter sellers is just so in that movie he's just so like basically he's so peter sellers that he can't do anything but tell the truth and simple metaphors which plays the politicians like mad you know.
0:22:54: Yeah I know it's true and you know this may just may well have been uh you know a vehicle for sterling to make his commentary as much as he was kind of allowed or felt free to do because episode turnover eight. Yeah, they probably would have been, yeah, they would have filmed this shot this like right after the election. Oh and now let's schedule it for inauguration day because that's our normal air date. So yeah, in that regard.
0:23:22: I mean in other the ways we've talked about, I think it's not one of Serling's stronger scripts certainly has a little more of a ham fisted vibe though. I really do like the shyster dialogue. That's that's is that term okay now I know it. Yeah, because you're saying shyster, you're not saying yeah, other things. But he, that's funny. Like the stuff he's saying is funny like, and it's funny to hear an actor who, you know, you establish him as as a, you know, a shade tree salesman or whatever they do before then turning him around like the dude though, I love your face man, you have to say so many curse words.
0:24:12: So no, it's that's all well and good. But it just to me. Um I don't know, I don't even think it's the videotape for me because some of the videotape episodes I forget I'm watching the videotape, you know, but I never feels naturally outdoors. Said in another episode or two, like they could have like targeted which ones they did on video a little better. And I'm actually curious what you think because I felt the last one you did with me either beholder great on film. Don't want it on videotape. Like that one would have made sense on videotape and also obscure the effects. Um nervous man in a $4 room was already cost saving because it's two actors on one set. So that one could be videotape, why not? You know, but anyone that's, it's supposed to be Stagey anyway. Anything that's mostly interiors videotaped fine. Um, but when you're dealing with stuff taking place outside, imagine some of the ones that have iconic outdoor scenes that just on videotape would just the night of the meek is mostly city streets and it's like, this doesn't quite look right.
0:25:16: The lateness of the hour I guess is like, it's all indoors and such. But I was like, man, it would have a better like Gothic feel if it's on film. So no, that one is one of the ones I really like and has some real punch and yeah, I think it's, I think the, uh, you know, for the legacy I think has sort of been betrayed by that by that videotape.
0:25:39: And then, you know, we just, I just recorded the 22 episode that and that one kind of works because it's that hazy dreamy feeling. It's mostly indoors. So I guess you could argue that one actually is the best fit for where it is. Yeah, because the whole truth comes out just feeling like, like it would have felt a whole lot less cheap on film, like you're saying, you know?
0:26:02: Yeah. And so no, I, I don't like avoid it. Like maybe because of that, you know, if anything, I'm always like, oh right, this one was tape and it's obvious which ones are tape. But um, yeah, it's more of just like, there's other ones with, uh where there's an object that that does, that gives somebody the powers of prescience that I I prefer to this one.
0:26:25: Oh, the the other one is um that that I thought really was good on this episode was when his assistant shows up with the new sales signs posters. Oh, not ready to go see. That's funny. And I know that this was I think mostly written for humor for the audience, but you know, sterling is trying to get his licks in there with, you know, in which way you can and nothing more obvious than the fact that the shock we were talking about, which is that he actually, you know, names Khrushchev in the show has admitted the character that said when the, when the assistant realizes he's never getting a raise and sucker punches. Uh it's like the worst slowest sucker punch ever. Yeah, it's a little laughable. And and and it's not a twilight zone thing because I think it was in the last flight, we got a fantastic sucker punch. So it's not like they couldn't do it.
0:27:25: No, I mean, it's just a it's a small set and you know, it's supposed to be like a holy crap moment. And it kind of is like when I was watching, I was like, oh damn, but still, no, it doesn't, it doesn't do any favors for them. It just feels like you said very stagy.
0:27:44: Um Let's start with our questions on this episode in this episode, who entered or took a transit through the twilight zone.
0:27:55: Mhm.
0:27:57: The car, Well the car was built in the twilight zone according to the old man was like from the day it was built, it's been, you know, cursed.
0:28:06: All right. So I just stayed cursed in it.
0:28:10: I mean, obviously there's a sequence of owners that I guess while they own the car there in the twilight zone, I would definitely say by the end of the episode, Honeycutt has exited the twilight zone. Khrushchev goes in. Yeah, Khrushchev's an extent. The old man that's high cut. Then it's Khrushchev. Yeah. So that would follow And it will have trouble selling it with the communist system of 1961.
0:28:37: I don't even want to think about that now. God, that's terrible.
0:28:45: However likely.
0:28:47: Yeah. So um, are there any like ancillary characters? I guess the couple buying the card is just they're they're just dealing with the scumbags. So that, I mean they're definitely like why did he, why did he start changing telling us weird stuff later, But yeah. Yeah, I know they leave, they actually escape before they actually get anywhere.
0:29:10: Ivy is just, you know, he's just a burnt assistant. So he, I guess he's a little deeper in because his boston is livelihood is going bonkers. But he again, he leaves before that goes on too long. Although he doesn't make the signs first. So there's that are the signs from the twilight zone.
0:29:33: Hmm.
0:29:35: I mean he made them, but he made them while, I guess if he made them while um, Honeycutt was in the twilight zone and maybe, yeah. Okay. Um, maybe for the second, the, do they deserve their trip? Well, I feel like the focus there should mostly go on the old man and Honeycutt unless you disagree. But um, how about those guys, What do you think? Do they deserve their trips to the twilight zone or did they gain anything or lose anything?
0:30:11: Honeycutt totally deserved it. He sucked. Well, yeah, but then he kind of comes out roses at the end, Right? So maybe he did not get what he deserves. True. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I guess he's getting a divorce. So yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know, I don't know that, that little period of his life until he finally sold the car. I don't know that he could like undo some of the damage there. I mean he's got no career prospects and definitely no good job references and yeah, I think he, he ruined his, Yeah, because he told his wife exactly how what it would have creepy been. But now he's like a bit of a hero maybe. But, but I guess he's like kind of a, you know, unseen behind the scenes hero because he's just trying to pass a message along to the press. So he's not really going to get.
0:31:04: So hey that that could be his unselfish act at the end there.
0:31:09: Oh right, avoiding uh, avoiding, uh, you know what nuclear war, whatever. I mean, the Cuban missile crisis was what the closest we've come to it, isn't it? I mean, so I, yeah, yeah, it's, it's hard to how would the missile crisis have gone though if Khrushchev did have absolute candor at that time, that could have been a problem.
0:31:41: I was gonna say, you know, you can, you can sit there and analyze this, this particular aspect of it.
0:31:49: Um, how about the triple meter where you want to put it on the triple meter? I don't know man, again, I just feel like the concept of a haunted car was just way under used here. Um, I God, I think I think the trip meter would be more for the audience for the fact that these real life references. Um, so I guess it's a trip in that regard, but just as an episode, I think I feel like it's really low. I want to give it maybe 2, 2.5. Okay. Um, I was thinking three because of the signs. Mostly those signs were really trippy. Okay. I just, I don't know, I thought that was highly amusing. So that's that's where my, but, and then just the dialogue, as you said, it's not the best written episode, but the dialogue is pretty sharp when it's sharp. So I really did that. No, I laughed a lot. And my wife was watching it with me and she laughed too. So you would have preferred the car from a thing about machines that chases the guy into a swimming pool.
0:32:54: Yeah, that was a haunted car. Right? No it was fully, yeah and I like that one so much. Yeah, I just need I need a little more if you're gonna call something haunted I was like let's see it do something, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well I guess that's your example of a similar episode done better. That's what I'm saying. There's just it has and I feel like we've talked about one before this more than once with season one, there are just some that were just like okay, well you know this is this is there are good ideas here but I feel as far as execution they were done, you know because you can't run as long as twilight zone and did without repeating kind of themes and you know, protagonists and Mcmuffins and whatever, you know? Although I did like Jack Carson as harvey Honeycutt a little better I think than the guy in the thing about machines because harvey honey cuts right on that line of being likable and completely unlikable at the same time where and the thing about the machines, the dude's like insufferable.
0:33:55: Yeah, no, no this is in terms of a character the audience will like end up relating to. Yeah, because he starts out, I mean he has a true arc. I mean it's it's uh you know my I've said this a lot of times but my favorite thing about twilight zone is just the economy economy of storytelling that they have. I mean they really do, It's just incredible what they're able to do in uh in that compressed running time. Um every once in while we mentioned the 2000s era radio dramas. Are you familiar with the radio drama for this one?
0:34:28: I know that it wasn't Khrushchev in the radio drama. Oh no, they changed it to like like someone from the Middle East but the main point is um in your wheelhouse, the the star performer and that one is Henry Rollins. So doing I guess he's doing the hunnicutt role so I had no idea. Yeah that's awesome.
0:34:52: I started watching it and says the special features and it's like radio drama starring Henry Rollins which I didn't have time to listen to but um I was like oh that I probably will because I just want to see how that plays. That's kind of a while, you know Henry was always like part stand up comedian, you know sometimes completely stand up comedian depending on what you saw him do. Well my main thing with him was those three good songs on um was at the end of silence or whatever and otherwise I was just listening to all these, you know spoken word cassette tapes in my car, didn't really listen to the music. No, I've seen the band or saw the band because it's not that he doesn't even play music anymore, but I saw him just by himself talking way more times than I ever saw the band. It eventually became what I was more interested in. I couldn't even tell you what the album, what the band was up to at a point.
0:35:46: Uh Do you have any other big points on this episode?
0:35:51: Um No, not really. I mean, again, it's not one of the ones that I would consider a favorite. Um I I think um there are ones that I like a lot better that do kind of similar things, not just in season two, but maybe in even season one and beyond. Um But this is, I would definitely read more about it from a historian's perspective.
0:36:18: Right? Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly right for, like you said, it's when you watch, when you're doing a rewatch the show, but if you're cherry picking it might not stick out so much, and I don't even remember being part of the marathons.
0:36:33: Yeah, like I said, it's not when I was particularly familiar with, so maybe it was on a marathon, the whole thing just was kind of over my head, but I just feel like the premise for what it is um is not going to make an impression. I think it's more subtle what it's doing. Maybe this was the part of the marathon when you, when you took a crap.
0:36:52: The whole truth is on, well, it's time to take a whole duke.
0:36:58: Um, it is the middle of november. I know you have some stuff coming up. You want to rap about it. Absolutely. Yeah. Our new movie jug saw is finally available on DVD and Blu ray. If there's any left by the time that this episode drops our annual um, underground movie show, it's going to take place at consenting on december 2nd and third and on the fourth we'll do a live stream via our Youtube channel, but that's going to be live. So you know, it's not something that's gonna stay there.
0:37:32: Liberty live. Okay. There I was rapping for you. There you go.
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0:38:18: Okay, what can I sell you? I can, I can sell you this Duster.
0:38:22: How are you? It's only eight years old. It barely has any dust in it. I'm dusting things with it now and it's all looking slightly better. 80 bucks. What do you think I can sell you?
0:38:37: This is the ring from Bad Girl dracula.
0:38:41: Oh that's an actual film collectable then. Yeah it was that this was painted by X. Tina Pierce Tomlin for the movie and she was not in it. But yeah this is a pretty, this is a pretty great thing. I don't know if it has the same powers as sex Farrah to had in the movie because I'm not a lesbian vampire. But if you know a lesbian vampire you can test it out and see if it's more than just a just a cool looking prop. Maybe someday maybe someday you too can be a lesbian vampire.