The Silence (w/ Luke Summerhayes)

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0:00:03: It is the middle ground between light and shadow between science and superstition and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.

0:00:14: This is time enough podcast.

0:00:39: Hello, Welcome to Time Enough podcast. It's where we roll through episodes of the Twilight zone and beyond. This is matt here over there's luke, you got something to say Lucas, it's more of a song really, definitely not silent as in the silence. I thought maybe you'd just be like silent through the entire podcast and it'd be really frustrating. You could have just not had a guest and pretended that was happening. That would have been a good gag for this one. Oh yeah, yeah. So if it's not the april Fools one, it also has the benefit of being a pretty good episode. So I wouldn't want to do it that you know that dirty.

0:01:22: Well no, I think, I guess the gig is up now. I was going to do that when you got me to read the synopsis. Oh damn. Ok, sorry for calling, Calling your shot too early. Yeah. Um I have some non silent trivia though. So this will be this will be rebelling against this particular episode with lots of talking then. So it's pretty hard to do a podcast in silence. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot of dudes, you should, we may be among them for the trivia on this. The original air date was april 28th, 1961. The script was by Rod Serling but is heavily influenced by Anton Chekhov short story, the Bet Boris Sagal was a Ukrainian immigrant who did model episodes in the zone.

0:02:13: He also directed episodes of Alfred Hitchcock presents, The man from Uncle and another run with Serling and Night Gallery.

0:02:20: Later on, he helmed the Omega man featuring Charlton Heston, grumpy old man. Archie Taylor was played by Fran shaw. How do you say? T O N E with like a french way.

0:02:35: T O N E Y would be tone but that's I don't know, that's wrong. It might be like Tony Tony Tony Tony yeah, Fran shaw Tony Tony Tony, I'm not quite sure, sorry, I never took french anyway. He had a long career. First on broadway, spent the thirties as an MGM contract player and stinted around with some other studios like Universal in the 19 forties he was nominated for a best actor Oscar for mutiny on the bounty where his co stars clark gable and Charles Lawton served as competition.

0:03:08: This conflict of interest led to the creation of the best supporting actor category liam. Sullivan played that loud new money Jamie Tennyson. His sixties tv career included spots on adam 12 combat and alongside fellows owner William Shatner on Gunsmoke.

0:03:29: They had appeared together on screen again, In the Star Trek episode. Plato's step Children.

0:03:36: Oh yeah, he's got the look to be one of them. Yeah, the telepathic, you know. Yeah, I slightly recognize his face and that is an episode I've seen once or twice. So that's actually when I probably pass over a lot when I'm watching trek, is that the one that famously has the first kiss? Yeah, racial kiss I believe. Yes, yes. Even though it's kind of not because they were like live ones. Yeah, yeah. And it's also it commits the sin of not being a very good star trek episode. So it's a very like original series episode, right? It's like pretty definitive of what most of them were actually like 10 good ones that people like to bring up right right now season three, you know, it's weird, it's good, weird or bad weird usually in season three. So uh luke having having already busted your game, here's a prologue for you to read.

0:04:32: But we recently did a in an episode of Monster, Monster Mash, the monster podcast, The talk about the whole like drying your teeth to do rod serling thing came up and then the joke somehow became that Scottish people have famously wet teeth and that's why they can't do the voice.

0:04:54: So here we go, oh hi. The note that this man is carrying across the room is in the form of a proposed wager, but it's the kind of wager that comes without president.

0:05:03: It stands alone in the annals of bet making as the strangest game of chance ever offered by one man to another in just a moment we'll see the terms of the wager and what young Mr Tennyson does about it and in the process where witness what old parties spin a wheel of chance in a very bizarre casino called the Twilight Zone.

0:05:23: All right thanks scotty.

0:05:26: I felt like I don't have the power. I cut my nerves, didn't go for the Connery which I guess everyone has decided now that's not a Scottish accent accent.

0:05:40: Um So this episode is what like a bunch of rich people problems that they make for themselves I guess.

0:05:46: Yeah this is like one of the episodes that's the least.

0:05:54: Um There's no supernatural. Yeah right because I'm not familiar with Alfred Hitchcock presents but I'm guessing this is the sort of stories they do on their right just little little vignettes of human drama.

0:06:08: I mean I think that's why maybe the Twilight Zone stands out as an anthology series. I mean Alfred Hitchcock's great too. But yeah that one tends to be more like psychological thrillers and horror. You know where you got the outer limits which has like alien every week. Right so twilight Zone kind of sits between those poles I guess And but yeah this episode is definitely having a stroll down a Alfred Hitchcock Lane mm just as quick as I should notice that my note that my New Year's family viewing was the bates, hotel tv series so more wholesome family entertainment and colleges house.

0:06:47: It's not bad. I mean it's it's I guess it's kind of like the Smallville to psycho. You know that makes any sense. Great you know it's not really a verma Farm ago is that how you say her name? She's really good in it. Um Freddie Highmore you know charlie from the chocolate factories norman bates so that's fantastic. So that there but yeah it's one of those you know it's like modern tv where they kind of have to stretch the plot like taffy to go over like 13 episodes or whatever. That's not that's not modern tv modern tv is so they actually make six episodes seasons now you're thinking like classic Network TV where it's like we've got 23 episodes and we just got to put stuff in there. There is that there's a at least for American TV. There is a span which I think they're still doing to a certain extent of the 13 episode season. It's not quite you're thinking like it's not the smallville kind of thing where stuff happens in the first episode of the last episode and everything's filler.

0:07:46: It's the netflix thing of they're stretching out what could have been a single movie over a tv show. Right. Right okay that is a modern issue. But yeah that's even great shows tend to have that problem. So um in the case of us watching this it's because they had the first season for like three bucks at the rental store but but yeah this is again the Silence is the time when you're going to find yourself talking like a little bit more Hitchcock, right? Because it does have that vibe.

0:08:16: Yeah, that's cool. Because like I was waiting, waiting to see like what's the twist is gonna be and then twist works because there's no supernatural, There's nothing wacky. It's all and it's all even quite um not predictable, but like it makes sense.

0:08:34: It's all character stuff. Yeah, it's really good.

0:08:37: And I like, I like the idea that there's not always going to be a supernatural thing, Right? There are a few more that do that. But yeah. Yeah. Typically there is, but I mean this is just like files creators talking about how originally the plan was that like it was going to be like 5050 whether the thing we investigated was even real.

0:08:58: Then in the end there's only like one episode where it turns out it's not real.

0:09:01: Yeah, they should have bared down on that little heart that gives scali a little bit more fuel in her tanks as the skeptic as well, which I guess she didn't Well, she famously just lost all that eventually, didn't she?

0:09:17: Once you got abducted by aliens and stuff, I guess you have to start thinking maybe there's aliens. Um How long do you think you can stay silent?

0:09:27: Well that's the thing because he's like offering him any, you know, um, distractions, whatever in my modern apartment a year. Easy.

0:09:40: I want a year if someone locks me in a room to be silent and all the books I could read games, I could finish and writing. I could do a lot of people the wrong way from the back in 2020. But that's true, that's true.

0:09:54: That's kind of the wrong guest for this one because me and you are the two guys who did not experience lockdown because the mountains of rural Japan.

0:10:03: But I mean I definitely like for some of our holidays I, when I have the chance I'll bump up to the, the family house, I'm making music so I guess I'm singing some but otherwise I'm probably staying relatively silent. The singing count. Well in this case in this case of course in this case it definitely counts. But yeah, I had the thought of a few weeks ago we were doing the cleaning at our work right? And I was thinking it would be fantastic. You know like to sing along while you're cleaning but do it just like full throated broadway style and you didn't just do it.

0:10:42: No. And I didn't have a, I can't do a broadway voice that's for sure. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm coming from. But yeah, I was just thinking, you know or are you just going to a giant whistle, what whistle while you work? But you know, kind of like loud and full blooded. See see how long it takes for someone to say something to you.

0:11:03: It might not, I don't know, it's kind of confusing sometimes in Japan, what we'll have to do next time is we'll have to pre arrange that all of us, foreign teacher is going to do it and then the japanese teachers just don't know how to react.

0:11:15: Um what, what amount of money would get you to go along with this kind of bet.

0:11:20: I mean we're talking about actually severing my nerve then it would be a lot more than 500 grand. Well that was not part of the initiative, but if I thought if I thought that was necessary, then it would have to be, you know, life changing sums.

0:11:36: Is it necessary? Can you know, I think I could do it because as you know, there's very little things I don't think I could do.

0:11:45: Well I could do anything because I'm me, I don't know. Cool Million.

0:11:54: Okay, so you're just doubling that, right? You have to be honest, 500 grand if it was Yeah, I'm assuming that I can actually do it on my own steam. Yeah, I do it for 500 and okay, and then if we have to add in the severing you're going to go bump it up to one million. It would be more than that and more than that. Okay, what are your vocal cords worth?

0:12:15: I don't know. I guess you can't the first transformers film. 150 million.

0:12:19: I was thinking of the animated one. But yeah, no, that's like five bucks and a packet of gum. I think that's that's the charm of it. Um We got, like I said, we started off with the the rich people. Well the double twist of course is that the dude doesn't even have the money, like neither of them are like really rich, right? They're both just trying to I guess that's that's the interesting element of this story is that it looks like, oh here's a story about which rich people being douchebags, but it's about people who both of them are people who want to maintain the appearance of being rich but are not.

0:13:01: I also had the um the perception that not Tennyson, what's the other guy? Archie Yeah, Archie like I guess he was kind of old money where Tennyson was kind of new money because Tennyson was complaining about this other guy being new money.

0:13:17: The first thing we see him and where he's just, he won't shut up so he is old money but he's already blown his inheritance basically.

0:13:26: Whereas the older guy is his old money and it's it's just run dry but he's got, you know, presumably he's got the house and everything so he doesn't really need that much money anymore. He's just, I mean I guess you need, you need to have some problem if you're going to get aggressive enough to make the bed and dumb enough to take the bet you're probably not at, well tennis and of course it's clear he's not as best because he's already already blown his load. So um you know, there's a certain a certain amount of like chest beating here I guess.

0:13:59: I mean the real villain of the police is the lawyer who basically reassures um he tells Tennyson like no, no, he's good for it but knows full well that he's not.

0:14:10: Yeah, I just I just heard about um walt Disney's polo injury. Have you ever heard of this? Just for this is like for crazy rich people stuff like after he'd been successful was getting stressed out for some reason. Um his doctors like take up a sport, so he took a polo, which is kind of an insane sport when you like actually stopped to think about it. It's rich people, you know, one players, you've got to have a horse and a backup horse and you know, he got this injury and then eventually as he got older it got worse and at five every day he'd have his um one of his his his nurse give him like a back rub while he drank like a glass of scotch or something, right? So, and uh she suggested I go to check out the trains you saw that and then Disneyland started, so that's kind of maybe if you didn't have the injury, Disneyland wouldn't have existed. But the weirder thing is before that in the year before his injury he had played in games where two different people died in two different games like in the thirties I was just like, oh well yeah, polo, it's dangerous sport, you know, you think you'd take the hint of that.

0:15:17: But this to me that this kind of bet makes me think of that where you keep playing polo, even though you've watched two people die in the past year. Yeah. When you're living at that level of rich and just everything is meaningless, right? Yeah. So that's why they do that or they go and like do free running on top of skyscrapers and plummet to their death or they hunt men for sport on an island or they do, you know, pedophilic sexual stuff because they just, they can't get a thrill from what people get a thrill from anymore.

0:15:49: So these guys at least get their thrills in a different way. I guess. That's good. At least he's down in Archie's basement. He's on Epstein's island.

0:15:58: What do you think of the design of the basement, their little space to observe.

0:16:05: I'm very happy in there for a while. Yeah. Yeah. How bout with a 1961 tech? There's no, there's no switch in there. Can you handle it?

0:16:15: If I could get a typewriter or something then. Yeah, because I do have a lot of writing, I need to be doing a couple of times. I thought like, you know, it would be the best thing that could happen in my life if I went down for a couple of years I'd get ripped and catch up on my writing, maybe I'd learn a language in the clink. Yeah. Oh I think I just fell asleep last night. Did not mention in the trivia. Of course we have Jonathan Harris back who was um dr smith on lost in space. He's the guy I did write it. I just didn't, it just was under my screen. Okay. Oops. But he's kind of like the voice of reason in this one right? He's a George Alfred the guy that's kind Yeah but he he doesn't let Tennyson know that he thinks he's the other guy hasn't got the money. That's what I was saying.

0:17:09: But he is consulting Archie and just like dude which which you know makes it that's where the interest comes in as Archie is like getting more and more desperately trying to get him to like kind of settle before you know trial, so to speak alternative twist could have been that he's just got the like the wife looked up in another room that's why she wasn't if they like played up his wife's not visiting he's going crazy about it. Angle. Yeah. Yeah. Well yeah I mean that was just I mean that was just part of his desperation though. Right? Yeah. I know. I know. I know. Breaking but yeah. Yeah that would be weird if they're keeping their I mean maybe he didn't like his wife. I don't know.

0:17:47: No I got the impression he liked him. I don't know if she liked him but he liked her. Right? Right okay. Well she clearly didn't like she didn't show up but he might it might have been that he was actually not giving her the letters.

0:17:57: Oh yeah. Good point. Yeah. So he's just Keeping completely shut. Um does he at least get the $5,000 offered that? I think maybe maybe the lads at the club had a whip round for him.

0:18:14: Yeah because I'm like, you know he did cut his cord so you should at least get that last settlement offer. You know what for me the silence would not be the difficult part. Right?

0:18:23: It's being in that classroom and like completely unable to jerk it.

0:18:29: Well I mean the microphone should be fine with that. Right? I guess. Yeah. They didn't mention cameras and there's not always someone watching you. Yeah. I mean it's like three in the morning. Um I would just you know, I like to walk around so you like masturbating. Yeah, incredibly difficult.

0:18:54: It's like the George Carlin thinking was like imagine someone who running at top speed and and taking a dump can't be done but you haven't worked in retail and had to clean the bathrooms.

0:19:10: Oh my um But yeah I was thinking like just being in the cage and you know, not being able to stretch out your legs all that sort of stuff. It would be like a year of restless leg syndrome. But it was quite a big plus room so you could, you could do like a sort of a workout in there I think.

0:19:27: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't like to, you go to the gym, you'd like to work out, I don't like to work out at least that's why done when I was in the hospital, I was just like pacing up and down the hall for a while. So with, with the medicine tree thing, you know that that's the right name for that medicine tree.

0:19:50: Okay, because it sounds, that sounds like something you'd have in like a Navajo ceremony or something.

0:19:55: Mhm But yeah, maybe that is what they call those, you know, I was in a hospital in Japan. So they called it something japanese.

0:20:05: Let's um rock and do a few questions then. Unless, unless you want to make any big observations. No, I mean I was wondering if it was going to go into more of a, so do you know the Russian sleep experiment?

0:20:19: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but go ahead and explain that. It's just, it's just a really famous like scary story that gets shared online, like creepypasta.

0:20:27: But it involves like guys being, it's not being kept silent, it's being kept awake for like days into weeks into months and then they start like seeing visions of this other world and doing insane things and mutilating themselves and whatever and I was wondering if it was gonna be like he stayed so silent, he started to hear you know, voices from the Netherworld or whatever.

0:20:47: But yeah, like I said ended up being a completely non supernatural one.

0:20:50: Wouldn't that be like offensive to the mute?

0:20:54: But it could, it could have been that like I guess it would be offensive to the death was kept in like a complete noise isolation chamber or whatever. Like you can't hear either, that's complete silence but okay that that, that could yeah, that could obviously you could get something out of that, I'm sure like you're right, there are, there are people who are people who are deaf. So because there's a rooms that have been made you know to have like, like not just noise counseling but just no noise at all. Like I've heard it is a pretty wild experience and the same with like perfectly dark rooms as well.

0:21:27: Yeah, I guess the closest I've been sleeping in a cave, have you done the people who don't know me and that where we live in Nagano, there's a famous buddhist temple and they have a thing where you go through this underground tunnel which is meant to be completely dark and you just find your way by like feeling along the railings and there's like an idol you're supposed to find in the dark and if you find it you'll have happiness or what have you.

0:21:50: I've only done it once and some douche bag in front of me was using their phone to light up. So completely ruined.

0:21:56: Yeah. As well as say the times because I've done that several times and usually you go, it's a, it's a somewhat busy day and, and this was before phones when last time I did that um, with this on a, on a busy day, right? So I didn't have a light problem, but just the noise, you know, there's a kid like kind of like getting upset a few steps ahead, other people are kind of giggling, but then I went like on a Wednesday morning or something when no one is there and then when nobody wears others like, oh now I get the experience, you actually need to be by yourself to do this properly.

0:22:30: So I mean you live like two blocks away. So I would recommend just go there at a time when you know, nobody's gonna be there and try it without people and then it is a pretty cool experience. So uh, it's just just like um Archie has a problem here with this guy who won't shut up, you know, to enjoy that experience. You need to be by yourself, do it, Yoda's cave style or something, right, okay, then let's go different angle.

0:22:58: Who would you want to put in this room.

0:23:01: Oh, um, one, I hate to say one reason my Japanese hasn't gotten a lot better is because it allows me to tune out most conversations you're on a train if there's a loud, I mean loud drunks will get annoying but you know just in the restaurant or on a train, there's some chitter chatter and you just like you can completely tune it out. So it's almost like through our ignorance of japanese, we get to have like a little superpower in that in that way.

0:23:32: Um as far as like who do I want to actually just stop talking? I mean I could be cheeky and say someone like donald trump of course, but uh so funny, I mean I just you try and silence him, it just makes him stronger well, but then he starts like dodgy social platforms right that nobody joins. You got that, you know it's not it's not all fun and games at trump tower is it? So what you're saying is that the little notebook Tennyson was writing in was a metaphor for like master dot Yeah, I don't think that's the right wing one anymore.

0:24:07: I think true social was the one trump.

0:24:10: I think master Don was mostly the ones is mostly like people who just couldn't deal with Elon musk and twitter anymore, that's why everyone moved to it. I think it has been around for a long time, okay, but I think it's more of like a discord thing, there's like separate servers, it's not just in one big Yeah because there are, you know, obviously like other ones that are like way dodgy. I don't I don't remember what trump called his failed.

0:24:34: Okay, so I didn't even like I mean yeah, I only know that I listened to you and an anonymous do do do do do which which is about looking at how q messes with people's brains right now, I've decided to stop explaining that I'm gonna let people make their own Okay. I just don't like it's been a while, so also they're like really big. I think most people who listen to this and they are at this point, Okay, that's cool. Um Doing the questions who went into the twilight zone in this episode.

0:25:09: I don't know if anyone really did.

0:25:13: Yeah, I would go with nobody. I mean, you know Tennyson kind of created his own twilight. So I'm in the same way you could create your own twilight zone if you know, you're doing it to yourself, you know, I'm your twilight zone, so right, but that's the point, you know, this is all personal decision making. So that's why we were talking about Alfred Hitchcock at the top of this thing, so I guess we'll just give that a great big nobody. Then people entering the twilight zone, so um who does? I'll rephrase the second question a little bit and say who deserves what in this episode?

0:25:51: To a certain extent.

0:25:52: They all kind of deserved what they got, They're all old money, douchebags who don't want to do any work.

0:26:00: Like it didn't occur to tennis and just go and get a job.

0:26:06: Um Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know when the, when the revolution starts, he's the guys first against the wall. Right? Yeah, yeah. This is where the revolutionaries come to start putting people against the wall I guess so just chuck a grenade through the door. You know you want, I guess I guess you can sneak out for that first. He seemed cool. Okay. Oh yeah, he was, he was, I mean even though he's a lawyer, he's kind of like the help I'm talking about the little guy.

0:26:34: Oh right, not George Alfred. Okay. Sorry, Oh you mean Alfred? The but sorry because Jonathan Harris character is George Alfred, so okay, maybe maybe, but that wasn't good. Alfred and I got many confused because I think, I think that Alfred, okay, I just thought you were excusing the lawyer because he's a consultant to not remember.

0:26:54: He's even if he's not a member, he's complicit, yeah, the more I'm thinking about, yeah, you're wondering why you wanted to go along with that guy. Okay, except that Jonathan Harris is awesome. So he's also a perpetual villain.

0:27:08: Well yeah, but he's one of the best, right? You know? Yeah, I mean a lot of perpetual villain, actors are great guys in real life.

0:27:14: I just mean he's a great villain too. I mean maybe he could have been a scumbag, I don't know I you know I haven't heard anything to that effect so and I don't think he was like screaming at Bill Mummy had lost in space set or anything like that. So yeah I heard he was really mean to the robot as we know from Star Wars. That's how you really judge people. Yeah, he just kept kicking it around. Yeah, he was a total ray on Lost in Space. It was just robot, right?

0:27:42: Yeah.

0:27:42: Never because you want to say Robby the robot that's forbidden planet. Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:49: Yeah.

0:27:51: Game of was here uh it was somewhere recently but yeah I was like oh yeah that thing didn't have a name interesting.

0:28:00: Um looking up now in case there was a name that we're forgetting but to be honest I'm only really familiar with the matter a blank one.

0:28:11: The robot model B9 known simply as the robot.

0:28:15: Okay, it could have been a little more creative with that name. For sure.

0:28:20: Well there's plenty of the original and plenty of the Netflix one when you look on Google But you have to scroll down pretty far to see the the 90s 1 which I guess is probably for the best.

0:28:34: Well I guess we will go ahead and throw this one onto the triple meter then. Um What what do you want to give this on the triple meter.

0:28:44: It's a difficult one. Right? Because does this does this get a really low rating because it's, you know, there's not technically any trip, right? It's real. Or does that mean it gets a really high rating? Because it is so weird. Well being in the real world, but I think I'm gonna give it a I thought you were gonna do that before your explanation because you gave a real explanation, right? And then we we had a moment of silence. Who do you want? Who do you want to dedicate that moment of silence to?

0:29:23: Okay, sure. Actually, now that you said that I read the book because someone sent it to me for review the so I I didn't buy it, but I read the Prince Harry book and that was going in my that was going through my mind when I was watching this, you know, Because like 10nyson is kind of like, you know, he's trying to sound like a normal dude, and then suddenly he's like, you know, hunting on an island just to get away from it all. And it's like people can't do that man, I can't just bugger off to Botswana when I'm feeling down.

0:30:01: But uh yeah, so in that case, and also I did just want to like, since all the press reports are like slapping me in the face since someone sent it to me, I'm going to see what this thing actually said. So see for me I do not have that instinct of I'm being bombarded by press about the royal family and now I want to seek it out, leave me alone.

0:30:22: Well that's what I'm saying that because I watched this episode, it seemed to like have kind of an entanglement, you know, So I was kind of interesting because I was like, oh here's kind of a real look into kind of that, I mean even like higher echelon frame of that kind of mind. So I was just kind of like that got my curiosity, these silence guys, you know, they're just they're just um City club, you know, rich guys, right? So but it was interesting to just okay, I want to read someone who's like completely out of everything, you know, my parents kicked me out so I'm gonna move in with Tyler Perry is not like a normal course of action for people.

0:31:05: But yeah, so it I don't know, I mean I guess it just gets to the point that you can be rich or or have had success in your life and and be perfectly miserable because people making bets like these and taking them are are pretty miserable to start with. Yeah, well that's because people use it to be like um money can't buy you happiness, right?

0:31:28: And that's true from this angle, but money could buy, you know, a lot of poor people some peace of mind and let it possible for them to be happy.

0:31:40: Oh that that was the other fun thing in that book, by the way because he keeps singing and the press kept saying I was a drug addict and then I took a bunch of drugs.

0:31:48: It's like um you can't you can't have your cake and eat it too. Dude, I did see a funny tweet the other day that was like, Someone said something about gambling and then someone else replied talking about addiction and he's like, I've gambled 20 years for 20 years and I think about it every day and I'm not addicted. I don't think it's gonna happen.

0:32:07: So yeah, kind of kind of along those lines. So, but for me, I think when I started the podcast, I started knowing that okay, the silence will be my, my zero on the triple meter, but a very lovingly given zero. So like, I enjoy giving this one a zero, you get zero and I'll give it five and there we go. It'll balance out, right? Yeah, 2.5 is like the wrong. Yeah, it's definitely not, it's either a zero or five, it's not a 2.5. Yeah, so I can appreciate it. Okay, so you'll take the five, I'll take the zero. But yeah, for more than a year, I've been playing zero.

0:32:46: I've never been to Scotland, I went there very recently.

0:32:51: Yeah, it's cold in the summer, is it?

0:32:54: That's fine. Okay, that's cool. Well it was just, you know, so in recent episodes, I think the Death valley is comfortable, but that's because I was there in january, I think of Scotland is comfortable because I was there in like september. Yeah, there we go.

0:33:08: Um, I guess I'll wrap things up unless you got an arrow thunk er on the thunk.

0:33:14: Okay, this is time enough podcast. You can find us at time enough pod on twitter or facebook. Um you can find supporters on patreon at podcast podcast is where we do a whole bunch of other podcasting luke and I talk sci fi movies on like a mat sci fi sanctuary. Um, I'm having a run of episodes right now about the prisoner, which is imprisoned in prison and other prisoner podcast. So you know, kind of twilight zone, adjacent british style twilight zone stuff, um, luke. What do you do there? You can find my podcast about Pokemon, luke loves Pokemon.

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0:34:00: We're about to hit 50,000 downloads on that one.

0:34:04: There's monster mash, a podcast about monster hunter.

0:34:06: That one does. Okay, You can find out, that's what I was talking about, where we had some banter about the Scottish, um, I forgot his name, He made the twilight zone, you say every single week.

0:34:22: Then there's the game game show, which is the least successful podcast on the network where four british guys swear each other. It's really funny and I think people would like it, but for some reason we have no idea how to find listeners for it. Also, I'm not really putting any effort into that front because I do it for my own amusement radio. We said recently, like if I just stopped editing them and putting them out, everyone would probably still keep turning up and recording them.

0:34:51: Did you record it this week?

0:34:54: Uh huh.

0:34:56: Maybe check. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good way of sending out your podcast just through vibes, you feel my podcast in the air man. Just trust me dude, I'm putting out top quality banter. So just imagine the banter and chuckle at it. But for now you don't have to imagine the banter you can listen to all of that. So um I don't know, tell us something witty to end this one.