Mr. Dingle, the Strong (w/ Luke Summerhayes)

Season 2, Episode 19: True strength comes from two-headed aliens.

0:00:03: it is the middle ground between light and shadow between science and superstition and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.

0:00:14: This is time enough podcast.

0:00:40: Hello, Welcome to Time Enough podcast. It's a podcast where we talk about the twilight zone and beyond.

0:00:48: But not yet. We're talking about the twilight zone. Today.

0:00:51: We're talking about Mr Dingle the Strong, this is matt here.

0:00:55: Sitting over there is luke.

0:00:58: I never know how you're meant to introduce me on these ones. I don't I didn't even know how it meant to introduce you because we just did a sanctuary. Right? So I say then you say it right? So I'm supposed to introduce you. That's luke over there. A guest on this one. I'm special your special favor and I'm really doing you a favor this week.

0:01:18: Who handles HR for this podcast, who handles HR for this podcast.

0:01:23: Human relations is that you have two complaints.

0:01:27: One give me a good twilight zone one of these days stop giving me the so called comedy ones because like with Shakespeare comedy doesn't age well also you massively oversold this one.

0:01:42: You're like, oh it's perfect for you. It's about God, you get strong and fights animals. That's like one line.

0:01:48: Yeah, but you see him fight a bear or anything. You're a man who likes to try and get strong right?

0:01:53: I don't try to get strong.

0:01:55: I am very strong.

0:01:57: I'll also give you the the secondary reason you're here. Um I just actually got a note, I made a list of like, my current top 15. Twice so time enough. Time enough at last on there is not on your list. I'm like yeah it's good but it's not one of my favorites and and I don't like Mr Bemis and you're you're standing up for Mr Bemis so I should give you the neck burgess MEREDITH episode. Yeah I liked him more than that. Okay he's pretty, yeah I don't like him and either to be honest in my notes I did write the third one. He is like fantastic.

0:02:32: I mean the actor is great.

0:02:35: Yeah the actor is great in all three of them. He's playing a character who is kind of the character in it. Next episode is fantastic and this guy is like ridiculous. That's why I should have written ridiculous what I write. I wrote a creep that works too. Okay.

0:02:48: Yeah it's not quite a creepy. Okay, ridiculous. Is it? Because I explained Mr Bemis is being like pathetic. Right?

0:02:55: Okay but for me, pathetic, pathetic. I think for you it's like I guess the weird old man trope doesn't work for me very well I guess it doesn't for you and this one I didn't he didn't come across as old and as Mr Bayliss over here here right here I guess because he had a wife and stuff whereas here he's just not selling vacuum cleaners and selling was a divining rod for alcohol to a hobo. That was good. That's a good gag. Yeah. Yeah I mean I'm not gonna sit here and say Rod Serling can't right.

0:03:37: I think on the outset time enough the last better episode. Next one obviously man, better episode. Um I don't I think I like this one better than you definitely because I very much did not enjoy watching this.

0:03:50: This should be fun to talk about.

0:03:53: I don't think we just had a quite like this is awful take on this podcast yet because you had the whole thing of like I'm not even going to ask if it stands up because they all stand up. The funny ones don't stand up man.

0:04:06: Yeah, I think it's I don't remember there's before or after this but we did a penny for your thoughts where where Mark was like oh this is my favorite one so far. So I spend like most of the time like critically like deconstructing the episode because he said that which I usually don't do on this podcast. So that's either either you already heard it or that's a quick that's a quick promo for the future. I don't quite remember because I don't have um we do have trivia for this episode though, so I will do that trivia.

0:04:39: Original air date was March 3, 1 day after my birthday. My university girlfriend insists that was my birthday but she was wrong. She thought I was playing a joke on her, but I'm like no, no I'm sorry, did she argue with you about your own birthday? Yeah, she thought I was putting her on but I wasn't, I used to get a lot of people would wish me my birthday on the ninth of september because I would always say my birthday is 9, 11 and they would get confused because the british way around my birthday is 11, 9, Oh, shouldn't be in november then, but they knew it was september cause obviously they knew my birthday vaguely said it's nine something, so it must be today. Okay.

0:05:16: Oh yeah, I was doing trivial. Wasn't scripted by Rod Serling.

0:05:21: Oh I had a rod selling encounter recently in your dream, Let me and Mattie went and watched raging Bull at the cinema and when he's doing when he's old and fat and retired he's doing just a live appearance on stage and it's like featuring the works of William Shakespeare and selling.

0:05:34: Okay. Yeah, well this podcast will say that's fine.

0:05:37: And with comedies we've already made the analogy there, john graham director, do the synopsis synopsis is robert de Niro.

0:05:47: Sure why not?

0:05:48: If I could do your impression, john Brown directed plenty of fifties, horror and 12 episodes of the Twilight Zone but this is his first one for season two.

0:05:59: He will return for Shadow Play this season, you have that one, that's a good episode. Yeah, you're saying he does horror. So I'm assuming he did some like legit episodes, Okay there, You got that one request request accepted.

0:06:13: Burgess. MEREDITH is Mr Dingle though he only appeared in four episodes of The Twilight Zone. His particular oddball energy makes him one of the most notable and remembered performers on the series. He'll be back this season for the obsolete man and of course he'll absolutely nail the role of the penguin on batman a few years later Don Rickles the bed or here was the premier insult comedian of the mid 20th century and spent quite a bit of time chumming around with the rat pack in Las Vegas on film. He appears in absolute classics like run silent, run deep and casino and of course he was the voice of mr potato Head, the Toy Story franchise until his passing in 2017 which I'll add a addendum to. I haven't seen Toy Story for her yet but apparently they just used outtakes and made that mr potato so he is still mr potato. I don't know, I haven't told you that.

0:07:08: I saw a tweet that I was like oh yeah that is my feeling and she's like I don't care if it's good that's not enough of a reason to make it. I love three but three was such a good ending. It was we don't need a Toy Story for like yeah maybe Toy Story four is great.

0:07:22: I still don't want to watch it.

0:07:23: I don't feel the need to watch it, maybe I'll get to it sometimes. Like we need it. But yeah, at this point I see I definitely am on your wavelength for that barkeep, Anthony O'toole was played by James Westerfield. Westerfield appeared in some classic films like the magnificent Ambersons on the waterfront and the Birdman of Alcatraz. He also had a recurring role spanning Disney's live action sixties films, The Shaggy Dog, the absent minded professor and Son of Flubber. That is a series. The titles don't make it clear.

0:07:54: Eddie Ryder played Bookie Callahan. Writer was in a myriad of classic tv shows and films from the fifties to the eighties, but most often an uncredited bit parts. When did they stop doing that with you? Because I thought that was a thing for a while, right? But they have completely separate names I guess that they don't scare audiences away. Yeah. Anyway, you talked about with calm, right? How they rushed outside of kong because they thought people wouldn't go and see a sequel if they forgot it. Son of Flubber.

0:08:21: Eddie Ryder shows up with Westerfield and Son of Flubber there's my not funny punchline to all that.

0:08:27: But that's your trivial. Wanted me to wait until after that to say the thing. It's my trivial punchline.

0:08:34: So when did they become like, actually it's fine to just have to the apes, I think.

0:08:40: Well they kept the Planet of the apes part, but they didn't have numbers, but they made it clear that it's a series, right? Yeah that's why that's the first like major like go back to them $30 right? There are separate names but in the thirties they'd have series like charlie chan does this charlie chan also they were like two or three a year. Right so that could be a reason for that. Sure I did you know I bet it was telly once they realized like oh but they can watch the they can watch it in the intervening years on the tv keep the title alive. Yeah that makes sense because the eighties and nineties especially 23 now let's use roman numerals. Yeah. I don't think anyone ever Rambo series is insane right? First blood Rambo. First blood part two. Rambo three Rambo. Last blood that's the best. That's the best titling. Yes for sure. Even better is Rocky. Rocky two. Rocky three. Rocky five.

0:09:39: Rocky balboa.

0:09:40: Also I just missed three creed to creed. Three.

0:09:45: Apollo creed.

0:09:48: Yeah. Okay they okay there's something Stallone does insane sequel titling in full effect predator we talked about recently is a weird one as well.

0:09:59: Data to they. Yeah but then they never did a three. They just did different ways you could do a sequel, predators. The predator prey.

0:10:06: Okay. Yeah prologue us. Who knows how you're gonna do it. You don't even know uniquely american institution known as the neighborhood bar.

0:10:17: Reading left to right.

0:10:18: Mr Anthony o'toole proprietor who ordered his drinks like geraniums but he stands foursquare for peace and quiet and for boots for ladies, this is Mr joseph J. Callahan an unregistered bookie whose entire life is any sporting event with two sides and a set of odds. His idea is of a meeting at the summit is any dialog between a catcher and a picture with more than one man on base and this animated citizen is every anonymous bettor who has ever dropped rent money on a horse race, price fight or a floating crap game and took out his frustrations and his insolvency on any vulnerable fellow barstool companion within arms and fists reach.

0:10:52: And this is mr Luther Dingle a vacuum cleaner salesman whose volume of business is roughly that of a valet at a hobo convention.

0:10:59: He's also a consummate failure in almost everything, but he's a good listener and has a prominent jaw. Yo Adrian, I said it wrong, it's actually is valid, not valid.

0:11:11: That different things I have to take average with that product. You just make me read the uniquely american institution of the neighborhood bar. We don't have that. You have pubs.

0:11:21: Japanese Izakaya might have something to say or the english pubs might have some completely agree.

0:11:27: Now there are funky parts of town Atlanta, we have little five points. We've got Virginia highland, They have some neighborhood bars so it exists. But yeah, it's not uniquely American of course and we don't even have them for the most part they're less American than they are. A lot of other suburbs do not have neighborhood bars. This is 1961. I guess suburbs are growing but not like like that was the thing yet Britain and Japan anywhere people live, there is a pub. I don't know how close you are to my notes, but even I was like that that's not right. Yeah, I mean okay, I will. I like this one better than you, but it is a Rod serling is by his pool talking into a dictaphone sort of episode for sure. Um something that does I guess make me like this one is is you know the whole Don Rickles Rickles thing.

0:12:18: Do you were you familiar with him at all? Okay, because I saw him on screen. That's great. It's like seeing dick york and you know some other episodes right?

0:12:26: Like I already think this guy is funny, so that helps because like I said, he is the guy, he's like um he insults everyone else for a few decades. Then Rodney Dangerfield insults himself and then Bill Hicks takes a bunch of acid.

0:12:41: That's stand up comedy George Carlin. We won't forget him, but I there's very little american stand up comedy I think is good. Okay, you know Mr potato head, He hates everybody.

0:12:53: So that that went a little way. I was like, I was happy to see him in here. I am.

0:12:59: I already said, I don't like his characters. But I do of course everybody likes to purchase MEREDITH. You're a bad person if you don't like seeing him on screen.

0:13:07: I mean I spent 40 minutes trying to be a batman villain, so I know how much talent it takes to do that. Well, so go ahead some hate observations here. Let's see where you go.

0:13:20: Um basically I just didn't find it very funny and then it didn't go anywhere.

0:13:28: I didn't know much anywhere. Like he was strong for a bit and then he wasn't, but there was no like lesson learned, there was no punchline or payoff to it, like, but you told it was like, oh yeah, it's about this guy and he gets stronger and he fights thing. I was like, okay, that could be a laugh. I did enjoy the scenes of him doing strong stuff. Oh, those are great. He's got suddenly, even though he's like an introvert, like complete introvert, like you know, he's like doing the little like showmanship anything. Yeah, but also every single one of those effects was pretty good, lift up the bench with a woman on it. He smashes the table in half and all this stuff.

0:14:06: Yeah, that was equality.

0:14:07: And then the look on his face as he's doing is just like fantastic. Okay, so I did have a thought.

0:14:13: How much like how new was all of this?

0:14:18: Because we had George Reeves Superman.

0:14:20: Did that have a lot of like little sight gags of him using his strength.

0:14:25: Um I don't have familiar you are with Georgia.

0:14:28: Well I was just thinking that like one of the actors in this actually wasn't an episode George Reeves Superman. I did it was just one episode so I didn't put it in.

0:14:35: I think I think it was the bookie. But yeah because like you get to like Christopher Reeve's Superman and lois and clark and stuff that these gags are in there right?

0:14:46: They have little gags of his weedy clark but he's using the strength to do something funny and I'm wondering if this is like the first time that's been done on screen serious saying the Richard Lester cut of Superman to does it better?

0:14:58: Oh God. Yeah. Yeah I mean I'm not gonna completely disagree with that but they did have a bigger budget and I'm actually this is me not slamming on this episode because I think the stuff the actual gags of him doing strong things worked and that's something that I still to this day get a chuckle out of it.

0:15:18: Like if I'm watching superman I want to see some you know not like a villain but just a bit of a douche. Get superman suddenly those are my favorite bits. Yeah like I always wondering like I mean yeah Dingle I mean it's called Dingle. They call him a Dingle at the end. Not even mr he's just a Dingle at Right so so like obviously he already sucks and why is he even going to this bar and he could buy a six pack and a drink in the forest or something. I've had, you get friendship groups where there's the guy who everyone's kind of mean to him, but it's the closest he's got to friendship.

0:15:57: I've had friends like that and felt kind of bad when I'm like, what we do is like none of us like this guy, but he insists on hanging out with us. So we're all just mean to him, look, it's back to the pub thing, right? Like as an american, I don't see why someone would keep going to this bar even if it's a small town where you know, you got the pub, you're gonna keep going there.

0:16:16: Just what you do, what am I going to sit home alone?

0:16:19: I mean, maybe especially in the days before you had like a tv and video games, maybe I don't understand mid century bar culture enough or whatever.

0:16:28: Just bar culture generally. Right?

0:16:30: Yeah. I think bar culture. Sure. Bar and pub, I feel like they're like some different beats. You gotta get some mixed drinks. Like America definitely has a place where you can get some mixed drinks and stuff.

0:16:40: Yeah, but the pub in the UK, it's just like, it's friday night. It's what I do. I go to the pub and drink pints and whoever happens to be there tonight. That's who I drink pints with. So that certainly wasn't the case growing up in the States. Right? And again in the fifties could have been different, not doing that for like 16 or as you're going to you in the twenties.

0:17:00: Okay. That's also a difference. Sure. Um, so, but I'd say a good half this episode is the feats of strength.

0:17:12: How about the aliens?

0:17:14: The aliens felt like someone making fun of twilight zone.

0:17:18: I think the reason they annoyed me because we haven't had any episodes with cool aliens yet, they didn't have the budget for it and you're going to get another one where they don't have it as well, but you could do a cool alien without spending a lot of money.

0:17:31: Like the level of effects they spent on these aliens, you could have done something more interesting, but we just got like, what is this here? I'll just, I'm going to read directly from my notes as I sometimes do like many props in season two. This alien suit is simultaneously the best and worst thing ever.

0:17:50: I just assumed the designer was really, really high and had to produce something before sobering up and then I wrote another note for the venusians when they show up at the end, the designer had just finished his job, smoked another blunt and then they asked him to make the venusians, I do hope this was a popular costume with kids for Halloween, 1961 I think I know what would have fixed it because they were doing dumb dumb sci fi alien voices. Right?

0:18:21: If they played it way more casual, it would have been funnier. Like just taking a piece out of it.

0:18:26: No. Yeah, if they just talked like people and just been like, alright mate, what are you doing here?

0:18:30: I'm just here to experiment on this. Uh oh, what are you gonna do?

0:18:34: Make them smart? We made them strong nice. What if they look completely normal and talk like aliens are almost normal and talk like either or I think would have worked, but having the stupid costume and the stupid talking was just like, this is what people who don't watch sci fi. Think all science fires. Yeah, I don't know, it is trying to be funny, but it's just like the one thing that did kind of work for me was they obviously have like well manicured like ear hair, Like are there different styles because you have like a mickey mouse here or or you know, like, I don't know, a trident or something that'd be cool.

0:19:10: Well maybe it's like north Korea where it's like you have to get kim jong un style or there's like three others you could consider, but they're all pretty similar to kim jong un style, but I just think like in terms of, where I'm at now, twilight zone and with time enough we've just had this run of like I'm gonna look up the episodes we've had recently, we've had dust, which was like legit, like a philosophical experience that was phenomenal the night of the meek, which was like a genuinely good christmas episode.

0:19:45: That's a similar tone ways to this, right? But worked. Yeah, I kind of like this one better. I maybe I just have a dumb sense of humor.

0:19:54: You do definitely. Okay.

0:19:56: And then, okay. Yeah. And then before that was most unusual camera, which was the last time you made me do a dumb comedy one.

0:20:03: But yeah, I just feel like when Twilight Zone good, it's so good and this is just bad. Okay, we're getting a deep one for the next one. So this is what people who don't, I said this is what people who don't watch sci fi think sci fi is, this is also what people who don't watch Twilight Zone.

0:20:17: Twilight Zone.

0:20:20: Yeah. If your only experience the twilight Zone was like futurama taking this out of it, you'd be like, oh yeah, this is about right. You won't even think this was a comedy would be like, oh yeah, this is what they were doing in the sixties.

0:20:31: A lot of crap. I mean it's the outer limits, right?

0:20:34: Lots of good outer limits episode, but they more often do this sort of crap, right? Like this is something that's definitely outer limits. They'd probably try to make it creepier, but it would still be just as lame. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I like the way I describe how I would have preferred the aliens to either be more casual.

0:20:51: I know that's just not the comedy style of the sixties, but I still think this whole episode just needed one more draft, needed a funnier punch line were like 60% through a season and Rod Serling was actually stressing out at this point so that could go in because I mean the punchline they had was like, he goes to do one more feat of strength but they turned it off. It's not that funny, right?

0:21:19: And why people turn on, I guess people do turn on people real quick with, you know, you, you could go with perceived cancel culture or not, but when people want to turn on someone, you know, uh, the media can happen quite fast, right?

0:21:35: The 18th Amendment. Oh yeah, I just, I already mentioned and I said this before we start recording that he's dumb enough to like commit assault on live television. Like Dude's gonna get arrested in a minute.

0:21:50: Yeah, I mean it was a pretty mild assault. Just picked him up and spun him around.

0:21:54: He shoved a lit cigar into his mouth.

0:21:57: That's pretty hard that that counts as a salt. Okay, here's an anecdote for you.

0:22:02: I was sharing a cigar one time with my friend Bill and he was very wasted and he put it in his mouth first.

0:22:10: Ouch, I passed it to him without rotating it. I guess he just took it from me. He shot his before I start asking you the questions. Let's just talk the middle of a middle. A Bittle Bittle beavis about smart dingle.

0:22:28: See that's another.

0:22:29: So you know you all forget people who aren't smart trying to write smart.

0:22:34: That's what this felt like. But Rod Serling is a smart guy.

0:22:38: Well, what I loved is his monologue at the end filled with like uni words. I'm gonna call him uni words in this case because they weren't it wasn't like that depth. Well, you know, I've heard scientists say anyone who starts talking definitive about the quantum has no clue what they're talking about. He throws that in. But I do like that. Rod starts his closing narration while MEREDITH is still doing it. So it's like half of the performance is actually lost.

0:23:05: Oh yeah, no like anyone who's actually smart knows how to explain it. So you understand it?

0:23:11: Okay. I guess I'll be the questioner then.

0:23:14: I have a question and I can't do that. That's your stick.

0:23:18: Who was there a twilight zone in this episode? Yeah. The aliens went to the twilight zone when they visited because they found stupider.

0:23:26: Is that what you're going for?

0:23:28: What a twilight zone. That unique location. The neighborhood bar in America.

0:23:33: You can't imagine it if you haven't been there.

0:23:36: Let's just for a second. Sorry for the disservice of giving you episodes like the chaser. But but let's let's just take it from there because the last good episode you gave me was the hitchhiker and I said oh you should probably start giving these episodes to women. So now all I get is this okay? You don't give me the execution.

0:24:01: Okay. Okay. That interesting questions. Yeah but let's let's take it from that more view of like you know we got a twilight zone people go through it. It's not just stupidity. Dingle for sure because he's given weird power and then it's taken away. How about the the better that's actually his name is episode there's a there's a short story version where he is given a name and where mr Dingle does properly beat the pop out of him. Okay. Yeah but that's not this one. So it's just the better. Did he go through a twilight zone or you just get we've all picked on the weedy guy enough that it turns out he can throw a punch. I mean sorry we haven't all done that but it is a thing that happens.

0:24:43: I think I've done that I believe kids until they punched me out before.

0:24:48: Poor choice of words there but that that is a genuine thing right?

0:24:52: You don't have to get superpowers to just suddenly like have enough.

0:24:56: He just did a what's the film called where we going down we do call kids babies babies a lot and then they punch us going downhill. It's got a better name than that film descend? Er No it's too much for him and then he shoots people falling down, falling down going downhill.

0:25:25: So that's a better version of this. Is that what you're saying?

0:25:29: No but that's that's that happens in real life. So it doesn't require an alien giving you super strength, right? You just I don't think the better had a particular toilet, you just snap and become like a January six shaman.

0:25:43: Okay. Um we'll focus on Mr Dingle and decide if he deserves his trip through the twilight zone. I think the whole point is he doesn't write right, he just picked at random for being a Dingle.

0:25:57: Yeah I guess his name sort of want to sleeve isn't it? Yeah, it's like once a Dingle always a Dingle.

0:26:04: Dingle nominative determinism, right?

0:26:06: Yeah. If you're born Mr Dingle you're not becoming like, You know, No 1's voting on Dingle 2024, I hope you get to change their name.

0:26:23: That's why he would become Pope to not be Dingle.

0:26:25: You change your Dingle to be Pope. What's the worst Pope name you can think of um Age of consent. Okay. I was I was I was just actually taking from our recent podcast and think 08 so yeah he got that so he's not it's like car. Mathematically does he deserve to get screwed with though? I mean he deserved a little taste of having some power.

0:26:55: Why does he even have opinions about baseball? I don't have opinions about baseball. No, no. See this is another thing from a culture you don't understand in the UK, you're not allowed to not have opinions about football.

0:27:04: So this should have been set in the UK. I think maybe this episode would have made more sense in the UK. I mean, I understand why it's not has the experience of it, but yeah, this whole story in the U. K pub would actually have worked really well.

0:27:16: Kind of, you know, like Simon Pegg style, right? Yeah, okay, so this is actually one that would like, and then that's slightly more naturalistic kind of comedy would have come out as well, which I think would have worked better because it is no, no pun intended somewhat alien. I think to an american audience because this isn't how we tend to roll if you've had the alien instead of being this silly character thing had just been like, Bill Nye, not the science guy, the actor just sat there playing like a vague, you're not even sure if he's really an alien or not, he's just a guy who sits in the corner and the weird thing happened sort of thing you just had, you know? Yes, Simon Pegg suddenly gets super strength and start tossing nick frost around.

0:27:57: Yeah, I, I feel like the, the american bar vibe and again, this could not be the bar vibe in 1961 and I've been in America for a while. So it could be, well now it's like you don't go to bars much I guess, but you know America and the UK.

0:28:10: Okay, So anyway, you just, you go with the people you go with and hang with the people you go with, maybe you meet friends, you already know there and kind of, everyone keeps in their own little groups, right or your left who goes, you know, hitting on chicks at the bar in the UK, you start your night that way you go with your friends and your other friends. But then as everyone gets more drunk, you just slowly, more and more people at your regular pub are your friends. It doesn't coalesce. I think it's so much an american one, which, which again, that would be the naturalistic edge, that this episode is missing triple meter, you gotta, you gotta sound one more time, sarcastic laughter. Okay, okay, I just, I was like, you started like you came so quick. I couldn't process the first time, I've heard that before um, to, for the terrible alien costume and it's as low as two because of the terrible alien costumes.

0:29:11: Yeah, I think that's reasonable for this one. Yeah, yeah, again, as far as the comedy ones go and didn't mind. I, I told you, I actually did watch it like three or four times. I I am, I didn't hate it as much as I'm making out. I was amused by the feats of strength and the concept was funny.

0:29:27: I just you really oversold it to me.

0:29:30: I guess if I had done, we were talking about doing this as a swap podcast where I would do this with the crew of game game show and that was the game game show with regulars and Andrew Mark.

0:29:43: If I brought this to them, we wouldn't be friends anymore.

0:29:51: Okay, well I guess serious one for you. That was my concern. I can't give you guys a serious one, but that's what you want. So yeah, that's the comedy will come from us trying to be serious, Right? That's the point of the swap podcast is we're taking your podcast where you seriously go into these classic television and applying our nonsense for british idiots.

0:30:11: And you're taking yeah, for americans and trying to do a british panel show.

0:30:15: That's what makes it funny. I think I take these with a fair amount of sense and nonsense.

0:30:21: That's the beauty of the show, right? It's there are episodes like this and there are episodes which are like groundbreaking portrayals of the human condition anthology y'all.

0:30:32: Okay. Um do you want Dingle and dangle?

0:30:38: You can dingle me anytime you like over my podcast. There's luke, loves Pokemon about Pokemon. There's the monster mash. It's about monster Hunter.

0:30:47: There's the aforementioned game game show game show about games in the model of the british comedy panel show.

0:30:53: Um And you can find all of my stuff by finding me on twitter at twitter dot com slash busker lily nonsense where I made up as a child.

0:31:02: So so wait a minute. So the game game show would be like the bar scene and this done like more properly well yeah like you always describe it as like british people swearing at each other because that's the kind of friendship I think they were trying to portray here where they are arguing and making fun of each other but they are friends. So like let's just get the premier insult comic and hope it works out right but then they had him like punch him out twice.

0:31:27: We don't tend to do yeah there should be broken fists and noses in this episode of their own.

0:31:32: Yeah but yeah the but yeah that's again something which I think is more familiar to brit brit's expressed their friendship to each other by being horrible to each other. So in the end hey you were the guest for this, you found the little the strain that like makes sense out at all.

0:31:49: I wouldn't have done that within our guest. So yeah, just next time you want to give you an episode like this don't tell me it's about a superman who fights bears.

0:31:58: Oh you're gonna love this one luke. It's everything you dream of, it gets really strong and has a steel cage matches animals. I'm like, hell yeah, no, it's just about dork who lifts up a bench. Oh, I got a call at one time. He breaks the table and two minutes later comes back on the table is fine and when he tries to break it again, oh, okay, just kill couch.